"Do you believe the GB/FDS are Jah's representatives on earth?"
well--yes i do !
but as jah is just a myth--then--quite rightfully---the GB are representatives of a myth.
there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?
are the ones that got df more out spoken?
or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.
"Do you believe the GB/FDS are Jah's representatives on earth?"
well--yes i do !
but as jah is just a myth--then--quite rightfully---the GB are representatives of a myth.
there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?
are the ones that got df more out spoken?
or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.
in my case--i resigned back in '71...but over the next 10 years i occasionally attended because my wife nagged me into it.
no-one shunned me--and we mixed socially with lots of other jw couples. till '81......i had an affaire with a married sis--who got d'f'd for it---and it was announced that i couldnt be d/f because i wasnt a dub---but i was now an apostate and should be considered as d/f.
wife divorced me---very much NOT what i expected or wanted. but from there on i never got contacted by any elders.
from about '87 my kids decided they didnt want to see me anymore--and 2 out of 3 have shunned me since. one got d/f--and we are now family again. seeing him at christmas.
so 2 of my kids havent had contact with me now for 30 years. i have 7 grandchildren i have never met. 4 of them live a few miles away. i dont even know the names of 2 of them.
jehovah knows how to exact revenge on those who turn away from him.
so today was a cold and snowy day in my neck of the woods and the wife and i were just chilling around the house waiting to go to the church tonight for a candle lighting service when lo and behold we get a knock on the door.
yup, 2 elders from my old hall.
i figured they were fishing for some time so i invited them in and gave them some coffee and we talked about everything that happened and why we walk away from the jw's.
when does the talking snake appear ?
or is the Governing Body a greater fulfillment of that ?
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
so just what is likely to happen if they do come on a visit ?
quote a scripture or 3 ?
offer a prayer ?
sacrifice a chicken ?
what is the worst outcome ?
"of course not- we want to eat from clean dishes!
dishes that have been cleaned thoroughly inside and out.
" we have to be sure the things entering our minds are clean... rejecting exciting fun stuff that features sex.
i like to lick the inside of the dish clean before sex. that definitely is a euphemism.
"a believer" seems to be our new apologist/disobedient sheep.
"a believer" ignores the "spirit-directed"/"bible-based" commands of the gb/fds!
shame on you, "a believer"!!!!
i confess.
i'm "a believer".
i just like to wind people up.
i attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.
out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.
for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.
Might be a plan, Stan!
yep--whatever's in your head Fred.
i disassociated myself 3 years ago but have never told my mother, as she lives quite a distance from me in the uk.
i've have told her that i no longer go to meetings, neither does my son, who is 16.. i haven't seen her for 3 1/2 years.
i offered to come visit this week but she was incredibly offhand with me and said she couldn't meet with me today as she was on the ministry!!
hi quell--good to see you on here again x
according to some, the earth may have 10 billion people living on it by the end of this century.
there is genuine concern about space and resources.. imagine, then, 100 billion people being resurrected to live on earth.
some jws will argue that not everyone will be resurrected to earth, including 144,000. imagine 50 billion then, assuming that half of the people who ever lived did something so horrific that they aren't deemed worthy to be resurrected.. jws who are lurking and reading this: where are they going to live?
the earth can easily accommodate 100 million people.
they would just need to all stand up--side by side--in rows.
drinking tea.
then--when the whistle blows--
--its back on your heads guys.
my wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.
we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.
sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.
my son went to see it in London--UK